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[daniclaytcn]

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3. screenshot or description of the worst take you've seen on tumblr

i wish i could erase this from my memory, but i once saw a screenshot of a post by AGN where they 'ranked' all the 911 characters in order of 'importance' with bobby, athena and maddie in the first tier; buck and chimney in the second; eddie, hen and fucking taylor kelly in the third; and i don't remember the rest. i don't remember her explanation for it, except that hen and eddie are 'essentially side characters' and that chimney only got bumped up to the second tier after he became maddie's love interest 💀 i...truly could have gone my whole life without seeing that

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[sliceofdyke]

a sapphic ask game for ur sapphic ask game needs

are you beating the uhaul allegations? (be honest.)

do you identify as butch, femme, masc, and/or gnc? or none of the above?

how did you realize you were sapphic?

who is/was your most intense sapphic crush?

do you consider yourself a dyke?

are you good at picking up on when people are flirting with you, or do you tend to be more oblivious?

have you ever crushed on a straight girl?

what's your relationship status? are you happy about it?

do you have a "type"? if so, what is it?

did you do anything gay as a kid that makes sense when you look back on your childhood?

what are some good sapphic songs/music artists?

good sapphic books/poems/authors?

good sapphic movies/shows?

list five things you look for in a partner, or five things you love about your current partner(s).

are you the gay cousin?

do you consider being sapphic a big part of your identity?

how many people have you dated? talk about them if you want!

thoughts on e-dating or long distance? have you ever done it? how did it go?

describe your fashion sense. do you "dress gayly"?

do you consider yourself to be a good kisser?

are you generally "out" to people?

how do you feel about valentine's day?

do you like being referred to with masculine adjectives, feminine adjectives, both, or neither?

thoughts on marriage?

have you ever gone to a pride parade?

do you read yuri manga?

do you fit any sapphic stereotypes / other stereotypes related to your identity?

what's a canon sapphic ship you enjoy?

how about a non-canon sapphic ship?

who's your favorite sapphic character?

LEAST favorite sapphic character?

tell a funny story about something really gay you've done.

do you get crushes/fall in love easily?

who's a sapphic person you look up to? they can be someone in your life, a historical figure, a celebrity, etc!

if you could tell your younger sapphic self anything, what would it be?

[butwhatifidothis]

it annoys me so much when people say "edel had no other choice" as a thought terminating cliche. like even IF that were true, how one goes about that is still a characterful thing that gets minimized to "so it's not her fault stop being mean to her she just did what she had to". like. does she feel regret? does she apologize ot the people she's hurting? does she view it as righteous? who knows, becuase the argument is only ever used as a "stop being mean to my wife" line and not a character thing.

Yeah cuz like. Okay so let's say that starting the war was absolutely not her fault because xyz circumstance robs her of any substantial say in the matter.

What about using Demonic Beasts? What about her siccing her army and different set of Demonic Beasts on her own "friends" so that she could make more Demonic Beasts? Stealing from a gravesite to do so? What about starving her citizens, and being the only lord TO starve her citizens in their route? What about killing Judith as she ran away from her? Hell, invading the neutral Alliance in the first place? What about helping the Death Knight get away with stealing Flayn if 25 turns pass? What about saying nothing about Kronya even after Solon reveals himself at Remire? What about giving Jeritza a hunting ground to enable his bloodlust and not, like. Professional help?

She couldn't even mention a means she's working on to do anything about her starving citizens? Did she have to blame Claude (and everyone really) not immediately bowing down to her as to why the Alliance was violently invaded, and not her violent invasion being the reason it was violently invaded? What about persecuting Church followers who didn't do shit to anybody, did she have to do that shit too? Never freeing Brigid and instead stationing her men there on her route and sending Hubert there off of it; that was forced on her too? Taking Byleth's credit during the siege instead of letting them get the recognition they deserve - what, just, fate forcing her hand once again?

Are we really going to sit here and say because the war "needed" to happen, Edelgard was forced to do literally all of that (and more)? That because Edelgard was "forced" into war, she was also forced to do literally anything involving the war?

Like you said, her stans saying that she "had no choice" but to start the war does nothing to say anything about her as a character, because they also reject everything else she did regarding her war as having anything to do with her agency. They treat "she had to do this" as a means to protect the moral purity they want her character to have so they don't feel bad rooting for the villain to win, not as something that goes on to mean anything for her.

And I'm not asking for her to save literally every single person ever from any harm ever to prove her care about not going to war exists, I'm asking for LITERALLY ANYTHING. Because she quite literally does nothing to mitigate harm from anybody in this war, and regardless of whether the war was "forced" on her hands or not she absolutely could have done something to make sure her people suffered as minimally as possible. Which damn sure isn't seen in her hiding behind them as she sits in her throne room (a thing Dimitri and Claude absolutely don't do, with either similar or less time to prepare to protect their people). Or starves them, a thing uniquely said about her route (as literally all the other ones have the army go with lacking food supplies). Or allows Thales to conscript them under threat of death. Or openly saying that she thinks weak people would only stay weak after her war because they're "too used to relying on others" - because when her war takes everything away from people, it'd be THEIR fault for staying weak, which is *chef's kiss* so kind and caring amiright guys. Definitely shows off that she understands and/or cares about the ramifications of her war onto the people, and not that she has her head shoved squarely and firmly up her ass.

What does it meaningfully mean for the war to not be Edelgard's fault, if she's not going to do anything to indicate that she cares about other people enough to want to not force war on them? Hell, when she very explicitly shows she doesn't particularly care about how it'd affect people, if it affects people in a way that doesn't align with her beliefs? When she very explicitly says she's perfectly willing to sacrifice her people for her higher cause, and then goes on to sacrifice her people for her higher cause? If she doesn't even try to help others because the war was forced on her, that at best makes her one of powerless victim or uncaring defeatist - neither of which fit the resolute caring ambitious revolutionary they paradoxically also want her to be. So, again, what does it actually mean for the war to not be a result of Edelgard's agency, if she regardless of that still shows callous indifference to those harmed by the war?

It's a question no one who posits this about Edelgard is able to answer, because as you said, it's not meant to be anything more than a shallow defense against her own actions. Letting Edelgard have even the slightest smidgen of agency in her own actions means accepting that she is a massive fucking penis. A huge gaping asshole. A plain ol' jerk. Which again! Is INFINITELY more engaging to watch than this marionette strung along by literally everyone around her into "looking" like a villain, only being her "true" self when she's feeding kittens and dwawing her cwush and burping her googoo gaga babyass girlfriend they also tend to make (f!)Byleth over her shoulder

[samcarter34]

It’s honestly kind of funny that people are using Kieran as an example of why BioWare’s decision is bad when he’s probably the number one example I’d use to argue in favour of it.

There’s a kid who’s the vessel of one of the Draconic Old Gods. A kid who is the human reincarnation of an entity that convinced the Magisters to break into the Fade. A kid powerful enough to override an Eluvian and redirect it to the Fade. And his involvement amounts to nothing because not everyone took that route in a game that came out half a decade prior. Like he should have monumental implications for Thedas, but instead he’s literally so inconsequential that they didn’t even hire a voice actor to portray him; they just let Claudia Black’s son do it.

[boyquiet]

i think that we need to get over the narrative that you can’t have gay villains because that’s a harmful stereotype because there’s a huge difference between “this character is gay and a bad person” and “this character was written specifically to equate being gay and being evil/depraved/degenerate”. it’s just such a narrow minded view of fiction that leads to people afraid to write queer characters as anything less than morally perfect and then to a bunch of palatable but bland and boring queer characters that are arguably worse representation than a gay villain because they are not allowed to do anything wrong. while it is important to write all types of gay characters a work isn’t instantly “problematic” because the villain is queer and the hero isn’t. I think this is also related to the idea of subtext vs text in gay media and how I see a lot of people get mad bc the homoerotic subtext isn’t made canon without considering the context of it at all—sometimes creators make artistic decisions for reasons other than that they didn’t want the gay people to kiss because they’re homophobic. well written queer subtext can be better than a canon gay couple with no personality or relevance and a queer villain can be a better queer character than a gay hero because the characters in-universe morality isn’t inherently tied to how much care they are written with and the quality of “queer representation” isn’t determined by the amount of times they kiss on screen.

[griem]

ijbol idk man releasing screenshots of very polarizing things said in a private discord server between friends in a public "callout" post is #the most #tumblrific thing ive ever seen LOL.

#opinion 😱 in tags

[citrusai]

weekes saying all that mythal shit is up to interpretation is so weird to me because instead of worrying about leaving all of solas' past up to vague interpretation to (new) players because you're too chickenshit to stand by your established lore you could've focused on ghilan'nain and elgar'nan and who they were and what they became. elgar'nan literally let the other evanuris slay his wife and he watched on, and then he rotted in a prison made by what he referred to as his wife's "lapdog" and second in command general. and what of ghilan'nain? what is their relationship? why is it just the two of them in that prison when there were more evanuris trapped in there? why are they simultaneously this omnipotent threat capable of spawning blight at will but also two dimensional villains chasing their own tails half the game while solas just poses and speaks in his riddles in the fade. also a fragment of mythal is inside of morrigan, does no part of her gaf that her husband is literally terrorizing the world she loves? hello??

[theminecraftbee]

you know sometimes one of the things the fandom does that i like the least is joke about how certain ccs are "lorephobic" because it basically always ignores the lore they actually are really and visibly doing. like, sure, they may not be doing the lore YOU'RE looking at, but, one, lore doesn't just mean "big overarching server storyline" it can also mean solo stuff. it can also mean 'builds that have story built into them'. it can also mean 'fun little storyline between like two guys'. it can also mean character continuity. it can mean many things. two, "this guy doesn't do lore" is NOT the same thing as "this guy doesn't do the specific lore i personally like and want to see them doing" and i don't always think you guys know the difference. all of this, of course, is to say: hey guys did you know zedaph can canonically time travel,

[daniclaytcn]

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8. common fandom opinion that everyone is wrong about

i already answered this, but here's another one: the common opinion that eddie is terrible with his words/expressing himself through words is...just not true. he's literally dropped some of the most exquisite and heartfelt quotes on the show. there's no one in this world i trust with my son more than you. you act like you're expendable, but you're wrong. you're not like any other kid, you're my kid. i love you more than anything in the world. give the man credit!

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[dykedvonte]

Mini rant below and in the tags, the only time I’ll talk about this and my personal take on it.

The way people talk about hypothetical male Anya on Twitter and the idea of how Mouthwashing would play out if the genders were swapped makes me remember how people still don’t take sexual assault and rape with male victims with the same gravity, especially when the perpetrator is female.

[tevanbuckley]

Have you seen the outrage of Lou’s new cameo 🧍🏽‍♀️in it saying people can’t be upset but it definitely feels like the outage is mostly due to them not liking tommy and bucktommy and they’re using this as a thing to support wanting tommy gone. I can’t help but recognize a whole lot of hypocrisy here …

i managed to track down the cameo i assume is the one ppl are talking about (a lot of the links i've seen posted are broken) and the outrage seems very overblown to me.

was "teasing," the best choice of words, probably not, he could've chosen something less ambiguous and made the exact same point, but it's an incredibly bad faith leap of logic to say he thinks tommy did nothing wrong when he also describes tommy's behaviour as toxic, ignorant, and immature in the same video.

at the end of the day it's one sentence in a ~2 minute video, ppl who want to give him the benefit of the doubt will, ppl who already didn't won't.

[puhpandas]

An angel loses a wing every time I see someone says Gregory would find C.C annoying because he cries. It’s like that cutout of Gregory comforting Cassie means nothing to them, if anything that’s probably the most characteristic trait for him we had in canon game from another persons perspective 😭 Gregory does get snappy I get that but he’s not heartless chat he even gets concerned for Freddy ingame as long as you’re not like a threat to him he’d most likely be chill 😞as long as it isn’t ggy/Rab I mean.

no srsly and like anybody he was hostile towards he had a reason. the glamrocks were literally trying to murder him and were hunting him down for in his eyes no reason. he was snappy towards Freddy bc he was in a majorly stressful dangerous situation that anybody would freak out in let alone a 12yo lmao. it's like every other chance they get they try to portray him as kind fundamentally but nobody focuses on that

[synchodai]

Aaaaaaaaaaaah it infuriates me how many times i have to repeat this but the point of a royal succession crisis that leads to a civil war is that there was NO clear heir. The Realm wouldn't have been broken into camps if your argument "uh actually Aegon/Rhaenyra is the clear heir because—" was so indisputable that the other side couldn't justify their claim. The point of Fire and Blood is how the "rightfulness" of an heir is ultimately determined by who has the biggest capacity to inflict violence and scorch the earth, and yet HOTD fans are arguing like medieval peasants who are so monarchy-pilled that they actually believe there's such a thing as a divine right of kings in a series that was written to criticize the divine right of kings.

Imagine having fandom teams over which tribute truly deserves to win the Hunger Games.

[dipperscavern]

Okay, I'm not into Jace, and I also write experianced Robb, but here me out:

Robb being a virgin makes more sense, since he grew up raised by Ned and Catelyn. He's taught to respect honour both his own and other womens, considering in the books he marries Jeyne to protect *her* honour, not his own. So, him being a virgin makes more sense because he wouldn't want to put women in that situation at that point in his life, and is fine saving his own for his future wife.

Jace, grew up with literally no boundries about relationships. His father might not be his father, because hes pretty sure his mother was actually banging the commander of the city watch but he doesnt know if his father knows or if hes supposed to know. But then his supposed father "dies" and its rumoured to be by his mother and her uncle so that they could then marry right away.

Jace did not grow up with the boundries about love and marriage and honour. He just logically is more likely to not be a virgin because he didn't have good role models growing up in regards to sexual relationships. But Robb did, so he'd be more likely to not sleep with someone before he was married or willing to marry them.

I mean, my Robb fucks don't get me wrong, but logically, I think Jace not being a virgin makes more sense considering he did not have a stable example to grow up following in regards to that sort of thing.

Robb grew up valuing honour and seeing a happy, loving marriage between his mother and father. He had the better role models to value his own virtue and other womens virtues in regards to premarital sex. Jace did not.

Just my two cents.

u summed up my thoughts so well it’s crazy. i just didn’t wanna start virgin jace discourse again 😭

robb was raised with ned & cat as example, and the starks are inherently respectful — ned’s parenting of honor aside. he seems like the type to save himself for his future wife. he was raised as heir to winterfell, he knew he’d have to marry eventually anyways, and that’s just duty. it’s not even mentioning his character and the way his parents raised him

rhaenyra has pretty much excused all of her sons actions/enforced no boundaries (aemond losing his eye example A), and that combined with his parentage discourse definitely makes me think jace would have experience. he’s a prince, he’d never be denied, and he’s never been taught anything different 🤷‍♀️

[punkitt-is-here]

How about you apologize for calling persona fans transphobic

lol when did i say this. and if i did no i wont lmaooo

[daniclaytcn]

9,10,14 :)

9 & 10 — answered here!

14. that one thing you see in fics all the time

the fucking. lawsuit. please. just let it go. let it die. i'm begging.

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